yes roddy the game is running before i launch the bot 
 
Bob i have installed VC++ redistributable 2012 already  if i try to install it again i get the repair option etc ( i have gone through all the help i could find on this forum before posting)
I really appreicate the help guys whats really annoying is that am pretty damn good with pcs  25 years in fact lol   and last time i ran the bot i had the same OS installed and it ran no problem.
i might just give up and go manual on lotro  eeek the grind  lol
Update !!! 
I have no malaware or antivirus running when trying to run the bot
I found a full install of VC++ redistributable 2012 which i installed 
Netframe work 3.5 is installed on windows 7 by default and can be turned on and off via  turn windows features on or off   which i have checked is on
Still the same error so i am all out of ideas
question- am guessing the bot has no problems running on a windows 7 ult 64 bit O/S  right ?
Also you can have the bot folder on your desktop right ? 
what should the bot response be if i leave the username and password blank or enter just random crap  ?   atm its giving me the same client not found error. Which makes me think there is a problem straight away there
So basically i have everything installed correctly, i have downloaded the bot again, i have the game running correctly character is fully logged in, i have used the forum username and password, Tried all the running as admin   running windows xp service pack 3 and 2 etc  and still get  game client error