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Odd issues plz help

Post by shadowpanda » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:08 pm

Ever since recent update of the bot it has been crashing every 10 minutes or so. I've tried deleting the big files such as log, huge mapped files seems to be running longer now. Even on a fast net connection 6gb ram and plenty memory on a os: win7 as admin. My mapper skips alooooot tried on 4 different nets. So, not a net issue I know first thing I'll be told is log files sadly debug logs are no help to this issue. Any other info I can help with please let me know.

Things I've trIed:

Setting back to default
Deleting big files (2-3mb files)
Virgin install


Thanks in advance for the help. I have project I'm trying to work on for roddy so would like to fix this fast so I don't waste more time.
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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by bob » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:17 pm

Wht kind of crashes are you getting? Describe them. If there is any info from the crash, what is it. Is it the lotroclient or the bot that is crashing?

Can you make sure lotrobot.exe and lotroclient.exe is excluded from any antivirus scanning.

You may need to try a reinstall of the game client. What is the source of your install? Steam/Download/DVD/etc.

There is another log file in the C:\Program Files (x86)\Turbine\The Lord of the Rings Online folder. Mailslot_log.txt. IS there anything in this?

Can you capture a crashdump? it's not hugely important to do this - far better if you can debug it live as it will take me a while to dig through it. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/ ... ashes.aspx
You are running a .NET v2 32bit process so follow along for that if you do this.

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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by shadowpanda » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:38 pm

As for the lotro client it is just the via download from their site no dvd or steam just direct from them. Giving a rev error {in past this error I have gotten only when map data was currupted that's why I tried deleting}. I'll take some pic's of it tomorrow seeing how I have day off. Any idea why my mapper is being gaped even when not crashing? It's almost like when you try to make a map on slow net and it gaps. Then when I run bot it sometimes gaps witch causes the insufent path data that is expected even when running tight. This has only recently been happening since up date and tested on 4 different speed nets all failed and was gaped.


As far as mailslot_log you was asking about in lotro folders root its a large file should it be empty or should i be looking for something in it?
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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by bob » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:37 am

The mailslot log may have something useful for the recent entries, e.g. loss of connection to the slot, re-establishing alot. Delete the existing file and let it create a new one. See if anything interesting pops up in it. It is not an interesting file, and I'm mainly looking for the mailslot establishing and disconnecting alot within a single session.

I've had mapper issues and crashes with antivirus not excluding processes from real time scanning, which is easy enough to spot as your AV program would end up reasonably active while the bot is running. The effect of this is a massive slowdown in the bot processing (including mapping), and potentially crashing. You have to remember that Lotrobot.exe is injecting itself into another process, and then there is data going across processes. Heuristics in antivirus programs will detect this as a bad thing and end up constantly scanning for signatures and other undesirable activity. This is why I recommend you exclude the two exe's from real time scanning, if you haven't already done so.

Yes, screenies would be useful, along with a copy/paste of the full cresh text if you can (it sometimes doesn't fit in the screenie).

You could also run Process Explorer (or Task Man if you haven't got the former) and see how much CPU/privatebytes/sharedbytes/virtualmemory are being used by both processes (when you run a single instance of each).

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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by shadowpanda » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:36 am

Haven't been able to catch the bot crashes since its odd since i removed the mail file u asked about.
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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by bob » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:12 am

It's possible that the mailslot log file got too big for it to be able to append to with low enough latency to avoid a crash. This file is being written to to from the injection to the lotro client so it is imperative that the time taken by any part of these routines is as low as possible.

V3 will be removing the mailslot log file.

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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by shadowpanda » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:19 pm

Yea seem's legit i mean i aint touch them files for like 2 years now so im sure they was full.
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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by YellowBlood » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:15 pm

i play with windowed mode 800x600 and i solved the crash problem!
try it :)

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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by bob » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:44 pm

I play with bigger window 2560x1400. worky no problemo.

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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by shadowpanda » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:27 am

I always played windowed I doubt that was the issue I'm sure my mail file I removed was just to big.
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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by bob » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:22 am

I'd say so. If it has been around for 2 years it was probably fairly large (there was an update to output less stuff into it, previoulsy it got real huge).

Good to know it can cause a problem though. We'll be able to add it to the list of possible answers to crashes :).

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Re: Odd issues plz help

Post by shadowpanda » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:39 am

If I'm not mistaken it was 900,000+ kb. So it was almost a gb in its own. Fairly large I'd surely say so lol.
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